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Hi Chris,<br>
<br>
You only need to add a stage to your GATE pipeline that imports new
named entities with their canonical name into the KIM Semantic
Repository . That can be achieved using the Java RMI API of the KIM
Server. Does that work for your usecase ?<br>
<br>
I'll send the relevant links after we release the full
documentation.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
On 14.07.2010 18:09 ч., Chris Baker wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTinMzPmUdbyUkq-MHypz1DxB1S47NNQwMEta-qQ0@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div>Hi Marin, </div>
<div> </div>
<div>If I understand this correctly our knowledgebase must be
instantiated with </div>
<div>canonical names of all instances that could possibly exist
for our domain model. </div>
<div>In our scenario we instantiate canonical names only when they
are found in the </div>
<div>corpus by text mining. So this is not intuitive to us. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Can you elaborate.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Chris<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Chris
Baker <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:denguehost@gmail.com">denguehost@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">
<div>Hi Marin, </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Does this mean that we have to create Alias classes into
our </div>
<div>own ontology and then map our alias class with ProtonS
Alias class ? </div>
<div>Should our Alias class be a subclass of Proton Alias
class.<br>
</div>
<div>Should we use SameAs or Subclass</div>
<div>I am also concerened that all out synonyms in our
gazateer </div>
<div>now need to be represented in our ontology. Bascially an
RDF gazeteer. Is this correct ?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Chris and Alex <br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM,
Marin Nozhchev <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com"
target="_blank">marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote"> Hi Alex,<br>
<br>
The alias definitions and the individual declaration
must be in the same place. In this case, everything
should go in your test ontology. There should be no
reason to edit any of the PROTON files.<br>
<br>
I'm sorry if the documentation confused you to think
that the links between entities and aliases and the
aliases should be added to PROTON System. I CC'ed one
of our editor, who will review the relevant text*<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
* <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://nmwiki.ontotext.com/nmwiki/pmwiki.php/KimDocs-30-EN/ExtendInformationExtraction"
target="_blank">http://nmwiki.ontotext.com/nmwiki/pmwiki.php/KimDocs-30-EN/ExtendInformationExtraction</a>
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 14.07.2010 17:23 ч., <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexk@unb.ca" target="_blank">alexk@unb.ca</a>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Hi
Marin,<br>
<br>
Let' say I have individual indA_1 of the class
A. This individual is included in my test
ontology.<br>
<br>
Now I am trying to follow your documentation and
have create individual indA_1a of the class
Allias. This individual is added to the Protons
ontology. My unserstanding is that I have
connect<br>
indA_1:hasAlias:indA_1a<br>
<br>
The problem is hasAlias:indA_1a belongs to
Protons while indA_1 belongs to our test
ontology.<br>
<br>
The ontologies are not connect by import (only
by mapping file).<br>
<br>
So, where I have to place the statement like
indA_1:hasAlias:indA_1a ?<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Quoting Marin Nozhchev <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com"
target="_blank">marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"> Hi
Alex,<br>
<br>
In the Ontology screen, the line: "A, a List,
a Restriction" means that A is class of type
(owl:)List and (owl:)Restriction. Thus
clicking on the Restriction, thus shows the
known metadata about owl:Restriction.<br>
<br>
The KIM UI doesn't show what restrictions
apply to class A.<br>
<br>
Did I understand you correctly?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
On 13.07.2010 17:47 ч., <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexk@unb.ca" target="_blank">alexk@unb.ca</a>
wrote:<br>
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rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">Yes, it seems to work
now. Thank you.<br>
<br>
Only concern I have at the moment is that I
click on restrictions for class A or B
(Ontology screen) I got a list of data
properties that are not in my Ontology. May
be they are inherited? Is it what expected
to be?<br>
<br>
<br>
My next step will be to populate it with
instances and try searching.<br>
<br>
<br>
Quoting Marin Nozhchev <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com"
target="_blank">marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">I tested that
visibility file and it is correct. Please
tell me if any other issues remain after
applying the patch.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
On 13.07.2010 17:20 ч., <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexk@unb.ca"
target="_blank">alexk@unb.ca</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">visibility file
attached...<br>
<br>
<br>
Quoting Marin Nozhchev <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com"
target="_blank">marin.nozhchev@ontotext.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px
0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">Hi Alex, all,<br>
<br>
The attached patch that updates KIM
Platform 3.0-RC3 to 3.0-RC4. Unzip it
in the KIM installation folder, while
the KIM Server and Apache Tomcat (or
other servlet container that you are
using) are stopped.<br>
<br>
I have tested that your test ontology
loads and displays correctly after
patching. You don't need to reset KIM
by deleting populated after patching.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
P.S. Matt, 3.0-RC4 will be available
on the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ontotext.com/kim"
target="_blank">ontotext.com/kim</a>
later today.<br>
On 12.07.2010 18:32 ч., Marin Nozhchev
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left:
1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Hi Alex,
All,<br>
<br>
Thank you for reporting the issue.
It looks like this is an issue in
KIM, which fails to account for RDF
blank nodes that appear as a result
of OWL inference over some
ontologies.<br>
<br>
This issue was aggravated by a
recent change in BigOWLIM. We will
fix that immediately, as other users
may experience that too. I'll send
you a patch tomorrow and the team
will put a new release candidate
with the patch for download.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Marin<br>
<br>
On 12.07.2010 18:06 ч., <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexk@unb.ca"
target="_blank">alexk@unb.ca</a>
wrote:<br>
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solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left:
1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><br>
Hi Marin,<br>
<br>
We tried to integrate our ontology
with Kim. (It is about small test
ontology, just to learn how to do
it). We got a Java runtime error
as KIM Server is starting (please
see the error message in the
attachment). The ontology, mapping
and configuration are also
attached. Would you have a minute
to take a look on it?<br>
<br>
Any suggestions?<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
<br>
<br>
Alexandre Kouznetsov, PHD<br>
postdoctoral research scientist<br>
Knowledge Navigation
Infrastructure Team<br>
Dept. Computer Science &
Applied Statistics<br>
University of New Brunswick,
Canada<br>
<br>
tel: 506 6399358<br>
emails: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:akouz086@uottawa.ca" target="_blank">akouz086@uottawa.ca</a>
, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexk@unb.ca"
target="_blank">alexk@unb.ca</a><br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.unbsj.ca/sase/csas/facultyPage.php?member=Dr.%20Alex%20Kouznetsov"
target="_blank">http://www.unbsj.ca/sase/csas/facultyPage.php?member=Dr.%20Alex%20Kouznetsov</a>
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Associate Professor<br>
Dept. Computer Science and Applied Statistics <br>
University of New Brunswick, Canada <br>
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